Minimizing HLS latency

Tom_Distler · May 22, 2013, 12:43pm

I’ve read several of the existing forum posts regarding this issue, and I’ve tried the things listed in this tutorial: https://www.wowza.com/docs/how-to-configure-apple-hls-packetization-cupertinostreaming

When using JWPlayer in Chrome and iOS (safari natively), we are still seeing 25-30 seconds of latency (we hope to get <5 secs). I have verified that ffmpeg is outputting an I-frame every second using Elecard StreamEye. Here is my ffmpeg command:

ffmpeg -i rtsp://<IP>/<stream> -an -vcodec libx264 -b:v 256k -x264opts keyint=10:min-keyint=10 -preset:v fast -profile:v baseline -level 30 -f flv rtmp://127.0.0.1/camera/live

Note: The stream is 10 fps (hence keyint=10). I am not seeing any errors about “Fragment duration greater than suggested range…” after increasing the I-frame rate.

I am using the latest ffmpeg and x264 code (built today 5.22.2013). My Wowza version is 3.5.2.

Here’s the relevant part of my Application.xml:

 <LiveStreamPacketizer>
       <Property>
             <Name>cupertinoChunkDurationTarget</Name>
             <Value>2000</Value>
             <Type>Integer</Type>
       </Property>
       <Property>
             <Name>cupertinoMaxChunkCount</Name>
             <Value>10</Value>
             <Type>Integer</Type>
       </Property>
       <Property>
             <Name>cupertinoPlaylistChunkCount</Name>
             <Value>3</Value>
             <Type>Integer</Type>
       </Property>
       <Property>
            <Name>cupertinoRepeaterChunkCount</Name>
            <Value>3</Value>
            <Type>Integer</Type>
       </Property>
 </LiveStreamPacketizer>

I have also set Streams/StreamType to “live-lowlatency”.

I have restarted the server and the ffmpeg stream after each change made to the configuration.

After all these changes, I’m still seeing the browser request a single TS segment every 10 seconds, and the video is behind “live” by ~30 seconds.

Any help would be appreciated.

-Tom

sal_jefferson · May 22, 2013, 2:18pm

Hi there,

Can you start Wowza and download the chunklist with a url like this:

http://[wowza_ip]:1935/vod/sample.mp4/chunklist.m3u8

Then open this file and let us know what you see.

Here is an example of what the file looks like:

#EXTM3U
#EXT-X-VERSION:3
#EXT-X-TARGETDURATION:13
#EXT-X-MEDIA-SEQUENCE:1
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_1.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_2.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_3.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_4.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:10.208,
media_5.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:12.334,
media_6.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:11.75,
media_7.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:10.458,
media_8.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:12.917,
media_9.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:10.0,
media_10.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:10.791,
media_11.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:10.917,
media_12.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_13.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:10.375,
media_14.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:10.042,
media_15.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:10.083,
media_16.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:9.833,
media_17.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:9.75,
media_18.ts?wowzasessionid=89255007
#EXTINF:10.209,

Can you supply your findings from the file so we can take a look at them?

Salvadore

Daren_Johnson · May 23, 2013, 8:12am

The Chunk properties need to be within the LiveStreamPacketizer/Properties container.

However, it looks like your Properties container is missing from LiveStreamPacketizer.

So needs to look like this:

 <LiveStreamPacketizer>
    <Properties>
       <Property>
             <Name>cupertinoChunkDurationTarget</Name>
             <Value>2000</Value>
             <Type>Integer</Type>
       </Property>
       <Property>
             <Name>cupertinoMaxChunkCount</Name>
             <Value>10</Value>
             <Type>Integer</Type>
       </Property>
       <Property>
             <Name>cupertinoPlaylistChunkCount</Name>
             <Value>3</Value>
             <Type>Integer</Type>
       </Property>
       <Property>
            <Name>cupertinoRepeaterChunkCount</Name>
            <Value>3</Value>
            <Type>Integer</Type>
       </Property>
   </Properties>
 </LiveStreamPacketizer>

sal_jefferson · May 22, 2013, 2:36pm

Hi Tom, are you sure you are looking at your live stream? or are you looking at the sample.mp4 stream.

The url I provided was just a sample url, your url should be http://[wowza-ip]:1935/your-live-stream/chunklist.m3u8

I am only asking because the two chunklist look identical.

Salvadore

sal_jefferson · May 22, 2013, 2:53pm

Tom, sorry for the confusion.

The chunklist is showing that your chunks are 10 seconds long, which indicates either your application is miss configured and the default values are being used or your assumptions about fps and gop length is incorrect.

Please restart Wowza, then start the stream, let it run for a minute, then zip up and send the /conf folder and the current access log showing the restart and your test to support@wowza.com

Salvadore

sal_jefferson · May 23, 2013, 11:45am

Good catch Daren, sorry I missed this one guys, it was staring me right in the face.

Glad you got this sorted out Tom.

Salvadore

Tom_Distler · May 22, 2013, 1:21pm

#EXTM3U
#EXT-X-VERSION:3
#EXT-X-TARGETDURATION:13
#EXT-X-MEDIA-SEQUENCE:1
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_1.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_2.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_3.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_4.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.208,
media_5.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:12.334,
media_6.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.75,
media_7.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.458,
media_8.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:12.917,
media_9.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.0,
media_10.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.791,
media_11.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.917,
media_12.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_13.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.375,
media_14.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.042,
media_15.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.083,
media_16.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:9.833,
media_17.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:9.75,
media_18.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.209,
media_19.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.625,
media_20.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:12.375,
media_21.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.041,
media_22.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.792,
media_23.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.417,
media_24.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:12.5,
media_25.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.041,
media_26.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.459,
media_27.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.041,
media_28.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:12.0,
media_29.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.25,
media_30.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:12.292,
media_31.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_32.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_33.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.458,
media_34.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:12.209,
media_35.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:9.583,
media_36.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:9.833,
media_37.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.542,
media_38.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.542,
media_39.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:12.875,
media_40.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:12.458,
media_41.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.125,
media_42.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.0,
media_43.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:10.958,
media_44.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:9.959,
media_45.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.125,
media_46.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_47.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_48.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_49.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_50.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_51.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_52.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_53.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:11.25,
media_54.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXTINF:1.541,
media_55.ts?wowzasessionid=2076576926
#EXT-X-ENDLIST

Tom_Distler · May 22, 2013, 1:42pm

Haha… yeah, I just used your URL. Here’s the manifest from my live stream:

#EXTM3U
#EXT-X-VERSION:3
#EXT-X-ALLOW-CACHE:NO
#EXT-X-TARGETDURATION:10
#EXT-X-MEDIA-SEQUENCE:1
#EXTINF:10.0,
media_1.ts?wowzasessionid=1033911122
#EXTINF:10.0,
media_2.ts?wowzasessionid=1033911122
#EXTINF:10.0,
media_3.ts?wowzasessionid=1033911122

Tom_Distler · May 23, 2013, 9:47am

[RESOLVED]

Thanks!

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