# Is Wowza Streaming Engine custom Modules and HTTP Providers stateless or stateful?

**URL:** <https://community.wowza.com/t/is-wowza-streaming-engine-custom-modules-and-http-providers-stateless-or-stateful/94292>\
**Category:** Wowza Streaming Engine\
**Created:** [December 9, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.wowza.com/t/is-wowza-streaming-engine-custom-modules-and-http-providers-stateless-or-stateful/94292 "2021-12-09T20:47:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dan\_Farrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Dan\_Farrow](https://community.wowza.com/u/Dan_Farrow)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.wowza.com/t/is-wowza-streaming-engine-custom-modules-and-http-providers-stateless-or-stateful/94292/1 "2021-12-09T20:47:43Z")

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Is Wowza Streaming Engine custom Modules and HTTP Providers stateless or stateful? When I call functions and code from these, do they persist?

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**Author:** ![Connessione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Connessione](https://community.wowza.com/u/Connessione)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 8:52am UTC](https://community.wowza.com/t/is-wowza-streaming-engine-custom-modules-and-http-providers-stateless-or-stateful/94292/2 "2021-12-10T08:52:18Z")

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I think that HTTPProviders are based off servlets so they should normally be stateless other than perhaps using sessions to track stuff. In true sense only sockets are stateful. I am not sure how wowza calculates connections counts via http provider though. May be it uses http sessions for that or maybe WebSockets under the hood ?

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**Author:** ![Rose\_Power-Wowza\_Com](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.wowza.com/rose_power-wowza_com/32/431_2.png) [@Rose\_Power-Wowza\_Com](https://community.wowza.com/u/Rose_Power-Wowza_Com)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.wowza.com/t/is-wowza-streaming-engine-custom-modules-and-http-providers-stateless-or-stateful/94292/3 "2021-12-10T18:50:32Z")

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I asked a Wowza engineer for you and they said it would depend on how it was designed. They request you send a support ticket if you’d like to further discuss.